3 Reasons Why I Don't Like the Big 4 of Thrash Metal

Updated on December 10, 2018

Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, and Pantera. These are some of the most-liked bands of metal music. They are literally everywhere, even going outside heavy metal circles. The bands that used to annoy and worry the older generation, parents, politicians, and religious figures are now on their playlists and car stereos, sometimes even on repeat. The Big 4 of thrash metal have undoubtedly attracted many to the genre, but is it for the right reasons or just to be "in" on the latest trends?

I used to be a fan of Metallica, having seen them live in Yas Island, UAE in the year 2011 and enjoyed myself. But that changed as I discovered more artists through online metal communities such as Forces Of Steel, a forum dedicated to all genres of metal. Most of the artists were from the classic period of heavy metal (the 1980s) and not only surpassed the Big 4 musically but actually brought new elements to the sound of metal. I have been a heavy metal fan since age 12 and have heard a lot of artists in this time; enough to justify my disdain for the Big 4 with an educated and experienced discourse rather than blind-fire insults.

Reason 1 - Watering Down, Overshadowing, Tediousness

The genre of metal has numerous sub-genres: death metal, black metal, and heavy metal, to name a few. Each has underrated material that could have gotten the exposure it deserves. Instead, the Big 4 are the only bands that attract any kind of following (for the most part) and tend to not only overshadow other (superior) artists but also water down an entire genre of music (that spans an ever-expanding universe of music since metal artists tend to experiment regularly) to just 4 generally-known bands purely for their popularity and not musical merit.

I can say that the genre of metal is about exploration and finding bands for yourself, playing outside the safe zone (i.e popular opinion/recommendations) and the Big 4 just takes that away. Instead of exploring thrash metal (their genre) further to find other great bands in need of recognition (excellent bands such as Razor) they just box themselves into a vacuum where only the likes of Metallica represent thrash metal. A great disservice to the genre.

Thrash metal started out as an extreme genre that had dark lyrical themes, aggressive guitar work, and a grittier, lo-fi production. These are things the Big 4 fails to do in the modern day since their output is just a watered-down version of what thrash metal was. Metallica especially, in my opinion, is the most generic rock band ever to exist. Try listening to Metallica and a classic thrash band like Sodom side-by-side and notice the difference.

Finally, the Big 4 watered down thrash metal into the repetitive, cliched by-numbers mediocrity we see from deathcore bands albeit with different lyrical themes repeated ad-nauseum. I heard Slayer's "best" albums and none of them impressed me at all. The "intensity" is non-existent and never appears; if anything gets mildly annoying hearing the same "I hate God" lyrics; if it wasn't bad enough with black metal bands beating that dead horse since 1982.

The likes of Pantera also contributed to metal having fewer standout moments within tracks; you know when the riffs just hit all the right nerves and transition to adrenaline-charged solos; replaced by almost endless chugging of a single cord under the pretense of "brutality" and "aggression;" like deathcore and low-tier NU metal. This has ruined metal by producing more bands that imitate Pantera for varied reasons and thus saturate the scene with lethargic chugging and faux-aggression (Pantera's earlier material was Glam metal) that much like black metal above, is the remains of a dead horse.

Early Pantera

Better Bands - Razor - Evil Invaders

Better Bands - Sodom - Agent Orange

Reason 2 - No Effort

The Big 4, from what I saw have the most remasters of previous albums, more-so than any other band who only re-master if need-be; with new tracks and re-recordings with additional instruments and melodies. The Big 4, however, just keep re-re-re-re-releasing albums where there are 2 editions with nothing new; just improved sound quality which to me is meaningless because the songs themselves range from mediocre to bad. We all know about Lars Ulrich's tantrum about Napster. (even though Metallica got big from tape trading)

How many times can we hear the same songs for years on end; whether it's "Enter Sandman", "Symphony of Destruction" "Reign in Blood" or "Mouth of War?" Sure, the fans are at fault for being so complacent and the radio's fault for not branching out but how many good songs do the Big 4 really have? The ones that you can come back to and are always a good listen. Going back to Razor, their album "Evil Invaders" and "Violent Restitution" are albums that I come back to regularly because every track has standouts while something from Slayer always has 2-3 mediocre tracks with the rest being filler.

Pantera's later stuff, as much as many fans don't want to admit, was copied from Exhorder, a band from Phil Anselmo's hometown of New Orleans, Lousiana. The sound and the themes of Exhorder is how new Pantera got big minus the effort Exhorder put in. I enjoy Exhorder's music because it actually feels original and genuine unlike Pantera's forced attempts to appear aggressive and "mean."

Exhorder - Desecrator

Reason 3 - The Fans

From accepting and defending mediocre to bad albums tooth and nail to tearful, cringe-worthy tributes to people they don't know, to threatening people outright and to knee-jerk attacks on those who dare disagree with them; the Big 4 has fans that would really benefit from a reality check. The late Dimebag Darrell Abbot, guitarist of Pantera and his endless tributes on social media are very hard to escape; cheapening and reducing the legacy that Pantera may have had to a limp-wristed bandwagon of fake tears and regurgitated words alongside unjustified threats.

Pantera fans are especially bad in this regard when someone so much as disagrees about Pantera, they get defensive and start flinging insults and accusations (e.g. "you are a troll," "you are stupid,") which are unnecessary and much like the music itself, is just false aggression that won't get repeated had it been face to face; making it less about the actual music and more about the "tough guy" persona most of them put on.

The first paragraph also shows that metal has indeed gone soft and became the thing that most older fans dreaded; turn "emo." This means that like the genre of alternative music, the fans became teary-eyed, trend-following and complacent to the herd mentality found there as well. All the above qualities go against what made metal great; originality, toughness, individuality, and fearlessness.


Overall, I dislike the Big 4 not only because they overrated and overshadow other bands who are musically superior but less popular but also for their long-term impact on metal; turning it into a lethargic, commercialized monument to fan complacency and low standards of metalheads worldwide; wanting to hear chugging and faux aggression rather than quality music full of energy, creativity, and actual effort. Finally, overly protective and zealous fans are turning the metal community into false tears and war zones of empty, unjustified threats; making it about their fandom rather than the music itself.

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        4 weeks ago

        Pantera is big 4?? Lol

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        3 months ago

        Hes right tho. The big 4 did flood the gates for pantera, and a little band called sepeltura, and another one called death, and then another one called deicide, and then somebody called slipknot. And all of these bands that if the big 4 never got popular we wouldnt have. Such as rage against the machine nirvana soundgarden and then someone called clutch. So yea thank gawd they did keep flooding the gates with the same boring stuff over and over again otherwise madonna would have had a kid that was into metal and we would be forced to listen to taylor swift and gawd forbid lady gaga. Jeeeezzzuusss your lucky there is such a thing as coal chamber and korn so you can thank slayer for not giving up so you can profess your love for numetal.

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        3 months ago

        Maybe you should know who the Big 4 is before writing an article poser.

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        Jake Clawson 

        4 months ago from Kazakhstan

        Are you saying I can't voice my opinion then? What's stopping me from doing what you said AND writing content? I do promote what I like; who doesn't?

        Well good for you, glad you had that chance, be happy for that; no one is stopping you nor is anyone telling you not to like what you like; why do most metalheads online hate opinions that don't gel with theirs so much? Why/how is it "bitching?" or is it just another Get Outta Criticism Free card used by fans against opinions they don't agree with?

        P.S I did try to get into Pestilence, not my thing. It kinda bored me to be honest. As all 80s death metal.

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        4 months ago

        Well,you kinda blew that in the first paragraph.also,where the fuck does "Appetite For Destruction" fit in to any of this?that was Guns And Roses.a completely different genre of metal.Exhorder actually disclaimed any of that supposed getting ripped off by Pantera business,so according to the band themselves,you're wrong.Slayer,Metallica,Megadeth and ANTHRAX,that is the actual big 4.now,i agree that there were some great bands that got completely overshadowed by those few,but that's the business.you don't like it,you do what you can to support the bands you actually like by buying their cd's,merch and tickets when they can play your area.you make it a point to turn people onto their music.you drop their name everywhere and represent them.all you can do.if they don't catch on,they just don't.tough shit.that's how it goes.i actually grew up listening to and buying up bands from that time periods tapes(later cds,obviously)and t-shirts,patches,etc. and alot of great ones fell into obscurity(Candlemass,Sacrifice,Toxik,Hirax,Heathen,etc..).this article is has the tone of somebody bitching about a time period they know nothing about.you sound like you're about 20 yrs late to the party.that's a shame,but that's how it is.check out Pestilence.they were good too.

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        8 months ago

        Agreed completelyThough the Big 4 was one of my introductions to metal i consider all of them extremely overrated. There are a ton of bands out there with better riffs, solos you name it. I have very rarely listened to any of their stuff for at least 10 years now. Megadeth and Metallica are two of the most overrated metal bands that have ever existed. I like them but both of them are really overrated. Just like the article says their fans are fucking retarded. Anything that is not released by the Big 4 is considered lesser and so good. Kreator alone shits on them in every way possible. Sepultura(early), Artillery, Coroner, Dark Angel, Demolition Hammer, Watchtower give me bands like this over any of the Big 4's stuff. Can't touch any of these bands in a million years.

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        8 months ago

        Lol you don't even know the big 4

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        15 months ago

        Nice read, but I felt slight the article was slightly unjust to Megadeth, since we all know that Megadeth is the best of Big 4 and lot of other bands too, in terms of superiority in musical skills. Totally agree to the commercialising of music for profits, but you certainly cannot deny the brilliance of riffs created in Dystopia or United Abominations, which were the later albums by the band.

        Also for Metallica and Slayer, I personally feel they kind of live on their past glory, but it was actually that good back in those days. I mean, no matter how many Necrophagist solos or Animal as Leader riffs I listen to, none of their songs could match up to the sheer intensity that you can clearly feel from songs like Disposable Heroes, Dyers Eve, or Fight Fire with Fire.... Angel of Death and Raining Blood were definitely the most openly attacking music back in the 80s, while Good Mourning/Black Friday and Last rites/Loved to Death had some of the most fiercest and evil sounding riffage on standard tuning on a 6-string guitar that none of the present day guitarists could match up to, atleast none that I have seen till date. And even though Guthrie Govan can replicate and make some of the craziest shiz ever, I still think that there is a reason as to why no one on this entire planet could exactly recreate or better the solos that Chris Poland or Marty Friedman created. The reason is simple, its never about the notes in scale. It is always about the notes that creates an image in the mind of the listener, an unmatched, unparalleled one. And most of the great guitarists of day, though master the skill of right notes, could not quite master the skill to imprint their notes in the listeners' minds, which these 4 bands most certainly did.

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        Guitar Gopher 

        20 months ago

        Interesting read, but the Big 4 of Thrash metal is generally considered to be Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax (not Pantera). These are the godfathers of the speed-metal genre, along with bands like Testament, Exodus and Metal Church. Pantera didn't really come to any kind of prominence until the early '90s, long after these bands had established the genre.

        I think it is also important to consider that much of their early music comes from a very different context. Listening to Master of Puppets for the first time in the '80s was like being run over by a freight train, in a good way. Unlike today, there was nothing else that brutal back then. Today, Metallica is a shadow of their former selves.

        Keep up the good work. I look forward to more metal!


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